Content note: this post discusses rape
Today in “here’s a bloke who totally doesn’t understand how consent works” we have this chap, who was “falsely accused” of rape, and now makes recordings of consent before he has sex:
It has taken me a really long time to be intimate with another women and if and when that situation does arise I tend to ensure that I have recorded full consent before anything takes place.
I would ask questions like “What is your name? Are you comfortable in being here?” Just to make sure that I have proof that everything and anything that had happened, was fully consensual by both of us.
Yes. Seriously. That’s what he thinks is OK. And the BBC seem to have run his top tip completely uncritically. I shouldn’t have to explain why this is a bad idea and not actually seeking consent, but lest any young men try to imitate this, here’s why it’s absolutely not a decent way of seeking consent:
- Consent isn’t this magical switch which, when switched on, means you consent to absolutely everything that happens afterwards. It’s a process. It can be withdrawn at any point. So just because someone says “yes” at first doesn’t mean it’s going to be a “yes” all night, to absolutely everything that happens thereafter. It’s important to keep on checking, over and over.
- A recording can be coerced. Think about how most hostages say they are being “treated well”. Do you believe they are truly being treated well?
- A recording can be tricked. Is it going to cover absolutely anything? Probably not. This is probably just a general gesture of “consent” rather than what you are actually consenting to.
- Basically, the whole thing sounds like a rapist’s get out of jail free card. It misses how consent works in favour of legally covering bases. Knowledge that
Women, if a man whips out his phone and insists on recording your consent, I strongly urge you to run the fuck away. Maybe he is just a decent chap who doesn’t get it. But he is behaving like a predator by doing this. And he is behaving like a predator for wondering how he can avoid prosecution rather than being sure the person he is having sex with is enjoying it.
As an aside, it’s also worth avoiding men who say they were falsely accused of rape like the plague. Statistically, it’s more likely that they did it and got away with it.
For young men, consent isn’t actually difficult. It might result in you not getting laid exactly whenever you want. But what it does do is ensure you’re not a rapist. And isn’t that the most important thing in the world?
I heard the short piece on the Today programme. He admitted to surreptitiously recording his first dates. Even creepier than ‘whipping out his phone’.
Oh jesus. That is so fucking creepy. I’m glad his picture’s out there so we can avoid him.
“Women, if a man whips out his phone and insists on recording your consent, I strongly urge you to run the fuck away.”
Absolutely this.
Women, if a man whips out his phone and insists on recording your consent, I strongly urge you to run the fuck away
Spot on!
I heard him talking on the radio, and my skin wanted to crawl away. I can see that he wants to cover himself, but it’s very creepy and doesn’t seem to allow for the woman to change her mind later, as you say.
Interesting piece.
I heard him talking on the radio, and my skin wanted to crawl away.